Truck living!

topic posted Tue, February 20, 2007 - 7:15 AM by  walking
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I would just like to offer my living experience to others. I live in a 6'x9' delivery truck that I converted to a living space. I used found objects, used stuff, and basic materials where possible. I have a solar panel to charge the battery. Skylight to see the stars. I get about 19 mpg. A space so small is not for everyone, but on nice days I can go to a park, and it becomes "my" backyard. I travel to see friends, offer them help, and much like the movie link posted, have plenty of time to offer people. If you are thinking of living in an alternative dwelling, just do it! Learn from your mistakes, don't worry about making them! There are people all over this world making a conscious decision to live more deliberately. Hoooray!
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  • Re: Truck living!

    Tue, February 20, 2007 - 5:41 PM
    Thanks for your post. I'm really interested in hearing others' stories (and seeing pics) along these lines. As much as I ALWAYS wanted to travel around & take my time visiting various areas, somehow I got it into my head that I "could never afford to do anything like that!". I think I [subconsciously] translated the notion to expensive 32-ft RVs and all that goes with maintaining them ( big costs up front plus needing to be a mechanic or afford expensive repairs, etc). Only recently have I begun to re-evaluate my assumptions. I'm not a huge fan of long-term camping (the tent variety that is), but have come to realize that a small travel trailer (or converted bus/truck/van) can be about as comfortable as a cheap motel, or moreso----- no worries about when the sheets were last changed, crack dealers hanging out twenty feet outside your room, etc. And how many things could possibly go wrong with a simple 16-ft or smaller trailer, that would make it inoperable? In other words, if it doesn't have an engine or transmission to break down, it's basically a box on an axle and tires--- how hard could it be to keep it roadworthy? I saw in an rv tribe that Craig's List in San Francisco often has very* cheap or free rvs and campers----"cheap" in this case meaning several hundred dollars, and well under $1000 at most. I'm not seeing that in my area (NC is not a great place for bargains, probably because the population is not as high as some areas, it's not as affluent as places in AZ, CA, etc where some people practically throw away unused luxury items). In the mid-Atlanta region it seems that individual owners sell good used travel trailers for $1000-$3000, still affordable. Of course dealers' asking prices are higher. I should make it clear that I'm not talking about the gigantic, new-ish luxury "Pace Arrow"s, where you plug in your a/c, and all other amenities, and barely ever walk outside. I'm talking a little more along the "roughing it" lines, but some definite steps above tent-camping or sleeping crunched between milk crates in a 4x6 pickup bed. I'm getting close to buying something, getting excited about the idea that I really CAN travel around and enjoy life a little more--- for a relatively small investment.

    Anyone else have stories to post about their truck, travel trailer, converted bus or van experiences?
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      Thu, February 22, 2007 - 1:36 PM
      I lived in a bus with an ex for a while. It was cumbersome to drive and find places to park and whenever we stopped people flocked to ask if we (gasp) lived in it. But we had a lot of creature comforts.

      Now I live in a van. It's small, but I can go anywhere and park anywhere. If I didn't spend so much time camping in remote parts of national forests it wouldn't be as practical as it is. Tho there are people who vandwell in cities and it must be practical for them.
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        Mon, January 14, 2008 - 8:23 PM
        What kind of work do you do to earn what ever money you need? This is a curiosity of mine. I envy the idea of living without anaddress and such.

        MP & BB
        John
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          Mon, January 14, 2008 - 10:22 PM
          As for myself I work currently as a stagehand. right now we are in phoenix getting the superbowl ready. but there are LOTS of ways to live "on-the-road" I even go so far to say that it is more than just a few tips and tricks, it can be a lifestyle.



          Expenses break down two ways, gas/maintenance and food. food is easy, every town has food boxes at the churches or homeless shelters, dumpsters overflow with food that can be judiciously eaten, and even Unca Sam'll kick ya some food stamps once in a while if'n you're homeless (livin in your truck is homeless to them) So, I usually only spend money on food if there's some food I'm craving.

          In the past I personally have worked daylabor, posted ads on bulletin boards in "cool" coffeeshops, sold jewelry and played guitar on the street, flown signs for repair money, just about everything short of selling my body...check that, i've tried to sell blood plasma.

          It's all about living by your wits. Your needs are decreased, simplicity is key. Getting what you NEED becomes less of a problem when you need little.

          Oh, and "without an address" would be nearly impossible. It's only true that I don't have a constant address where I can be found, cept email. For other 'official' correspondence I use friend's addresses.

          J
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        Sat, April 26, 2008 - 7:39 AM
        Hi tara,
        I like your idea of living on the road,as for me I am looking for a small motorhome to do it in.
        What I need to research is places to travel to,work and stay a while like following the weather.
        Have a good day,see ya on the road. Bill - Loveland,Ohio.
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    Sun, February 25, 2007 - 9:09 AM
    That's great gas mileage for a home. What kind of delivery truck?
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      Sun, February 25, 2007 - 3:45 PM
      Hey all, I'm glad to see interest and hear of others plans to live on the road. As far as the details of my "delivery truck", I do have a couple of pics on my profile. His name is Willie Utillie, and he is a 1990 Utilimaster Aeromate. Utilimaster is the company that makes so many of the big UPS/Fed Ex type trucks you see on the road. They produced the Aeromate from 1989-1994. It is an aluminum and fiberglass body build on the chassis of Dodge Caravan. Because it is FWD, the floor is pretty low to the ground, keeping it a low overall profile. Inside there is 6' of head clearance. They came with 4 or 6 cylinder motors, the one I have being a 4, which is great for gas mileage, (but I sometimes feel like a Flintstone floorboard would come in handy to get some extra power for up hills or against the wind!) I feel totally secure parking in the woods, streets or parking lots. I do have a door between the cab and box I can close at night, and most people have no idea I live inside. I salvaged a stove from an old camper, building a frame which holds a #20 Lp tank, which also hooks to a small furnace for heat. I replaced the main battery with a 120 amp hour marine battery, which more than covers my needs except when it gets cold and there is no sun, but then I just have to start the motor, and the battery is charged soon enough. I love to help out anyone else who is interested in such a way to live, and will answer any questions! For how I live and travel, I really feel smaller is better, much like Tara mentioned, for getting around, finding parking, and not causing too much of a scene. If it helps Eric, I also do construction, and have room to carry around most of the tools I need, so good luck!!
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        Sun, February 25, 2007 - 7:36 PM
        I do HVAC/R and I was wondering how you find work while you are traveling. I'm sure you do temporary jobs as you move from place to place to help sustain yourself, and I was wondering how you go about finding those jobs when you arrive at a new place.

        Thanks.
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          Mon, February 26, 2007 - 7:44 AM
          Just a thought here...I've traveled quite a bit.. .most communities of any size has day labor, most communities have unemployment centers with bulliten boards, most rural farming areas have local morning hangouts for farmers to hire someone for the day. If you have a vehicle and a cell fphone I would suggest investing in one of those magnetic signs saying something like " Male with good work ethic available for work>insert ph #< and maybe list some of your skills. ....just a suggestion.
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          Mon, February 26, 2007 - 7:46 AM
          PS. also check local homeless shelters...most managers are usually willing to stir people in who actually want to work in the right direction.
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          Mon, February 26, 2007 - 5:33 PM
          Hi Goat,
          As far as work goes, I usually have something lined up ahead of time in the general area I want to see. As an example, this past fall I lined up work with friends in Estes Park. When I arrived and started working, (remodeling a bathroom, landscaping, etc) the neighbors started to stop by and ask for help. I ended up working for four of them. Of course it helps to have general skills, as I can plumb, tile, drywall, paint, and trim a bathroom without calling in 3 different people. Word of mouth is really the best way I have to get jobs. As it is now, I have work in Estes Park whenever I want to go back, as people with houses are always planning the next change. To get work in other places, I have used Craigslist before, to both look for work, or to offer services. There are a lot of work opportunities in the building trades for a skilled craftsman, I'm not sure about HVAC work, but I would try craigslist for sure! The other thing that's hard for people with real houses to understand is that living in a truck, I can cut nearly all of my monthly bills out, so I don't have to work 40 hour weeks 50 weeks a year. Without the pressure, work seems to come along when I need it. :)
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    Sun, February 25, 2007 - 10:40 AM
    Woot! This is awesome to find this thread, as I am planning on doing something very similiar. I have a contstruction job this summer in wyoming and right now im shopping for either a small schoolbus or a F250 Truck to convert to veggie oil. I was thinking i would have a few solar panels for the batteries Engine/appliance and ive also heard of portable small windmills that you put up when you are parked. I hadnt thought of the skylight but that sounds great. I am on a mission, and it feels great!!! Seeing other people doing it really helps. Thnx for the inspiration.
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      Sun, February 25, 2007 - 3:15 PM
      "Delivery truck" could mean a lot of things. Cube truck, panel van, box truck, pickup w/ a cab, etc.

      I've heard that a Cube Truck / Box Truck like this (www.dbs.umd.edu/motor/serv...s/1ton.php)
      is a great stealth home. Especially if you can get one with the small door between the front and back. Roomy, tall enough to stand, flat roof, secure. Keep it white and clean and it looks like an "official" van. Throw in some high, narrow windows that look like vents, add a skylight.

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        Tue, February 27, 2007 - 9:12 AM
        AS poor as I've been I've never lived in a truck, I could never and will never. But I really like the idea of converting truck containers into livable spaces. Imagine if they would do that instead of melting down the iron and making new one's. Think how much fuel and energy cost we could save as a planet.
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          Tue, February 27, 2007 - 7:31 PM
          I've never lived in a truck either, but there have been times in my life when I'm sure it would've been a bettter option than the one I chose, living situation-wise. Had I been able to find an affordable truck or camper at that time (these were pre-internet years when everything was harder to locate), I would've gone for it. I love the stealth nature of Walking's situation, It really isn't anyone else's business where any of us choose to reside. Walking, I'm guessing that your rather informal employment situation keeps you from having to provide a "physical address" in order to secure work, and also guessing that you have a physical address you can use for other "official"purposes. These days you cannot obtain a driver's license or vehicle registration, for example, without providing a physical address (rather than a post office box). Any "authority" ever bother you regarding where you're parked, inquiring as to whether you're "living in the truck" , etc? How do you handle internet access? I understand there's a small device now available that locates available high speed internet signals within 500 feet, for just such applications. It fits on a keychain, costs less than $20, and is available on Ebay, at Walmart, etc. Haven't tried it yet--- has anyone else? I plan to get one for camping/traveling---- figure I can pull into any hotel parking lot and grab a signal (or will the access be password-protected?).
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            Tue, February 27, 2007 - 8:05 PM
            I live out of a chevy 1500 pickup thru the summers. With a topper, and a bed built above the wheel wells, I have immediate bed space whenever/wherever needed. It is somewhat cramped without space to sit up unless you are in the cab, but less is more... sometimes.

            Good points:
            Low profile--- park and sleep anywhere and it looks unoccupied
            decent gas mileage--
            enough space for gear and some construction tools
            go and park anywhere
            easy to find parts or a mechanic

            not so good points-
            shitty gas mileage
            not enough space for more gear and tools
            tough to be invisible while living--- while cooking in parks, searching for public bathrooms

            Most days, I feel blessed to be livin the rubber tramp life. the open road extends on and on

            For internet, I usually use libraries (free) or internet cafes (easy).

            happy tramping!

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            Tue, February 27, 2007 - 8:37 PM
            If you have a laptop with wireless it should be able to tell you what wireless connections are available at any given time. Sitting in my bedroom right now I can get a list of 9 wireless connections in my neighborhood.
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              Wed, February 28, 2007 - 10:26 AM
              This is called "wardriving". Use that in your google search...

              There is some great free software available for sniffing out Wireless networks called Netstumbler: www.netstumbler.com/downloads/

              It is touchy about network cards but works great with a Buffalo PCMCIA card or an Orinoco. For an external cantenna go to:

              Http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/an...igchunk.html

              I built one of these using a pinapple juice can and an emitter from: www.moonblinkwifi.com/pd_cantenna.cfm

              This is a directional antenna and you can then use the netstumbler to identify a network strength and direction to "dial in" on it. With this system I was able to dial in a point to point wireless network that had a 2 mile range. Pretty good stuff. At one end was a Buffalo hi power wireless bridge that is actually on a freeway bridge here in Cali and it has now been on-line and transmitting vibration data with no hitches for 7 months now.

              Please not that this is only to be used for site survey and identification purposes and any attempt to hack in to anybody's network is a federal crime. Generally you can find free services all over the place like university campuses, Etc.

              A great place to go for finding free and legal hotspots is: www.wififreespot.com/ Thjere are many others though.

              Happy trails,

              Dawg
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            Wed, February 28, 2007 - 9:11 PM
            I do have a "permanent address" in my home town in Wisconsin, but for sure being self employed I don't have to provide this information in order to work (not YET, anyway). It does allow me a place to register my vehicle and is also where I have my drivers license. I haven't really been harassed at all by the authorities, (am I breaking a law?) although I do play it pretty safe. There are plenty of safe legal free places to stay when on the road, (truck stops/gas stations, wal-mart, cracker barrel, neighborhoods with street parking, national forests, free campgrounds, BLM land, Corp of engineers sites, some waysides/rest stops) and when I am working, I am always welcome to park in the driveway or on the road of the places I work. (Walking to work is one of my prerequisites for any job)

            As far as internet goes, you can see from the other posts, it is pretty easy to get access with a laptop. I do have one of those small keychains, but really have found I don't need it, wi-fi is all over the place. Even without a laptop, the local library is usually free (with time limits).

            I'm so excited to hear from others who are living and traveling in vehicles. Cheers Tara and nikO!! For me, it is not a choice I had to make because I am broke or poor, but the opposite, it is a way for me to be "rich" in so many ways! By measuring possessions I am surely the "poorest" in my family and circle of friends, but I am the one who can travel and spend weeks or months with them, time is my luxury, and I actually have cash to travel places. I also get to meet so many interesting people along the way! Yippee! I do hope to one day offer a place for other travelers to stop, to visit, to pass through or stay.

            Abe, I am so curious to hear more about your thoughts on never living in a truck, (size? convenience?) but converting truck containers to housing. Do you mean for other people to live in them? Or you just don't like the idea of moving around? Or maybe connecting more than one?

            Is there anyone else out there driving around? Please share! :)
            • Parking, free camping etc

              Wed, February 28, 2007 - 10:34 PM
              I love this tribe, and this thread. :)

              Walking wrote: "...There are plenty of safe legal free places to stay when on the road, (truck stops/gas stations, wal-mart, cracker barrel, neighborhoods with street parking, national forests, free campgrounds, BLM land, Corp of engineers sites, some waysides/rest stops) ".

              I have been "run off" (told to move on, told I could not park there, told I would be ticketed if I didn't move the car & drive away "now!!!" while legally parked on a public street...for less than ten minutes. This was in the southwest. A friend and I were sitting in the car talking, legally parked in an unmetered parking space. Actually, we were also eating fast food, from the fast food restaurant some 60 feet away. Our food wrappers and cups were clearly marked as having come from the restaurant we'd just driven away from. The neighborhood was home to a lot of hookers, and this was just after sundown, so the cop's "rationale" was that anyone who parked on the street was a john.....yeah, right, with my female friend sitting in the car with me, $15 worth of fast food spread out everywhere in the car. Yeah, my dates and I always like to barter with the hookers, in case we can trade some cheeseburgers for sex. :0
              Point being, cops can and do hassle people (telling them "you can't park here") even if you're not breaking any law. If you argue, the cop just finds some other reason to ticket or arrest you. So I'm delighted to hear you haven't run into that, Walking.

              Re Corps of Engineers land, I've always had to pay a fee even to enter (albeit it nominal, $2-$5), and more to camp or park overnight. I bought an annual pass for something like $40. But have never been able to enter, or park overnight for free. That's in the southeast . Ditto state parks here--- roughly $15-23 per night to camp . Not really all that cheap. North Carolina rest stops have signs posted "No Overnight Parking". I do it anyway (in a car) and have never been harassed or asked to leave. I'm interested in finding out more (and starting to compile my own database) about free camping areas , as I'm going to be camping a lot this year. I've been doing a lot of research about the whole Walmart thing. Bottom line, almost all Walmarts allow overnight parking for one night at a time, except in Arizona, where it's often not permitted (city ordinances, not Walmart policy). Apparently, some assholes have threatened to blow the free Walmart deal, via being really stupid and obvious about it----- setting up grills and lawn chairs all over the parking lots, camping out for a week at a time, being noisy, running back and forth from rv to rv with this raucous "party" atmosphere that generated complaints, etc. My Walmart plan (with pickup + trailer) is to park in the farthest corner of the parking lot, move on after one night.

              Thanks to the tribe member ("Bad") for all the info re wi-fi. :)
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                Wed, February 28, 2007 - 10:39 PM
                Most def cool thread! : )
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                  Thu, March 1, 2007 - 7:13 AM
                  Hey all, there is a whole world of information and resources in the retired folks realm. You know, you see those silverhaired RVer's all over the place, well, this is one place they exchange tips on RV living! (although they wouldn't hear of living in F250!!) www.woodalls.com/cforum/in...s/forum/33
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                    Re: Parking, free camping etc

                    Thu, March 1, 2007 - 6:49 PM
                    ^ Yep,old people are a wealth of information.

                    Also check out www.freecampgrounds.com, the book Don Wrights Guide to Free Campgrounds, and the forums at escapees.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x

                    For free camping on national forests don't go to a park with big signs. You can look at a map and find a little dirt road that goes into the park and drive it (there will almost certainly be little windy pull off places for camping) or you can call the ranger station people and ask where you can camp for free - it works!

                    I've been hassled by cops a couple times in the van. I'm just sickeningly sweet and submissive until I get away from them.
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              Sun, March 4, 2007 - 6:37 AM
              "it is a way for me to be "rich" in so many ways! "

              Word. I appreciate the no-rent (except for gas prices), and how if you don't like the neighbors (po-lice) you can always move.

              Richness ain't necessarily the material riches around us, right? I find great richness in my freedom from rent, freedom from other's itineraries, and freedom to go go go.
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        Sun, February 10, 2008 - 6:47 PM
        being totally inconspicuous is the key. i have a chevy stepvan(breadtruck) it is white with black bumpers, no bumper stickers no trash or clothing (home items ) visible in the cab. i wash it regularly. i do not park where i am going to sleep until i am ready to sleep, then lights out! if you have bicycles and solar panels hanging off your vehicle, and a hippie paint job, bald tires and a layer of dirt on your vehicle or you are seen cooking or lounging around it smoking dope and listening to the dead, you will be hassled. tip of the day: external visible padlock on rear door(s). dummy padlock on door between box and cab. box appears to be locked from the outside, so nobody should be inside. if you are quiet this will fool most of the people most of the time.
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          Wed, April 29, 2009 - 2:59 PM
          Good point: I use to camp and do nature photography alot in a vw bus. At one time the bus was inconspicuious and could park anywhere....pull the curtains....and no one would bug me. I would avoid neighborhoods and even city parks......I used wallmarts.....and rest stops on the highways......any place there are alot of 18 wheelers is good also. But ya....the idea is to blend in and do not call attention to yourself. Curtains work!
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        Sun, February 10, 2008 - 7:51 PM
        in southern california there are many municipalities seeking to discourage "rubber tramps" by enacting regulations that prohibit parking r.v.'s , 1 ton trucks(duall wheels), vehicles over 21 ft. when buying my stepvan (not an r.v.) i specifically looked for an aluminum body (no rust), under 21 ft., 3/4 ton (no duall wheels). if you are going to be tramping in a specific place, find out what the operating parameters are. buy an inconspicuous rig with no ground level windows, do not park in tramp enclaves, you will be marked as a tramp by the police and hassled. if your scene is incognito and your vehicle appears to be commercial, park downtown near large apartment complexes, or in light industrial/housing/mixed use areas where there are a lot of contracter vehicles. park to sleep after 10 when most people are settled for the night, leave by 6:30. go to work, or a coffee shop. arrive at your sleeping place after people are settled, park and be silent, leave before they are out of the house/ walking the dog, etc.
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    Thu, March 1, 2007 - 11:19 AM
    I'm seriously thinking about going all out and buying a 5th wheel trailer and a truck to pull it and living on the road myself. With a satellite dish I can take the internet with me, and I can use a friends address as my residence address, and re-imburse her for postage for forwarding my mail to me.

    I would take a couple of friends with me, my dog, and my motorcycle, and would probably plan my route to arrive at field trials happening around the country that I could run my dog in.... And working here or there as I travel doing HVAC or refrigeration work.

    Anyone had any ideas, or discussion on any of that? Thanks.
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      Thu, March 1, 2007 - 9:24 PM
      One thing that the real ID act will do is make it next to impossible to get a drivers license without a permanent address. A way to clamp down on nomads maybe. So how to get a drivers license if you don't have a friend you can use for a permanent address?
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        Thu, March 1, 2007 - 9:42 PM
        It's a tough problem B. There are people makin valid arguments that we need to be able to identify people in order to secure our country from Terrorist attack.

        Personally, I think there are other, less invasive things we could be doing, and in my opinion, we should be doing, before we start infringing peoples civil liberties.

        In any event, those are the rules now, so how do we follow them while maximizing our pursuit of happiness?

        Make a friend who's address you can use as your permanent address?
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      Thu, March 1, 2007 - 9:30 PM
      I bought a 5th wheel, 10 meters long. Bought it for Burning Man, drove it a thousand miles…very similar to shoes…

      Quick list of issues that piss me off.

      - If it only has two axels, and you lose a wheel, you have to pull over instantly. 3 axels ALWAYS.
      - Make sure ALL wheels have breaks, some only have them on 2.
      - You really need an intercom between the cab and the back.
      - They are BIG, much bigger than you really want or need. People think they want the space, it really is a waste.
      - Most of the controls suck, you will find you have to check a lot of things that a couple of dollars and a warning light would solve.

      My plan is to sell it, and would much rather have a simple cab that mounts ON the truck. But, you might want to try it for yourself. Even better, try to borrow one for a week from a friend. Go through one full cycle (filling the water, emptying the waste, etc.).

      I live in Maui and LA, one of my friends has a E350 van he custom built into a home in Maui. Very nicely done. Lived in it for 10 days recently for the fun of it. This added to my realization that you just don’t need (or really want) so much space).

      Each person needs to try this for themselves though. If you even have the urge to do it, then you should just do it. It really cannot be explained from one person to the next, other than the mechanical things…

      I’m designing a series of homes based on the foot prints of these towables in fact.

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        Thu, March 1, 2007 - 9:45 PM
        Thanks for your input and your check list. Very good points in your check list.

        I know I'm a person who does need the space. I fret that the 5th wheel I want may not be enough space.

        Did you drive the thing with passnegers in the trailer? How did they liek that? Iv'e heard people hate riding/sleeping in the trailer when it's on the road.

        thanks.
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          Fri, March 2, 2007 - 6:53 PM
          I believe that it is illegal to drive with people in the trailer.
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            Fri, March 2, 2007 - 11:20 PM
            You think it's illegal in every state or just in CA?
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              Sat, March 3, 2007 - 7:02 AM
              I believe that it would be illegal in every state.
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                Sat, March 3, 2007 - 1:17 PM
                Illegal in a trailer, but legal in a 5th wheel WITH a intercom.

                My sister, her friend and a bunch of their kids were riding in her husbands 5th wheel and the intercom went down. Not a problem when they were on the hiway, but when they went off the road to get to the campground, the 3 mile dirt road was washed out and bumpy and they thought they were gonna die! All the kids sceaming and hollaring the doors and cubbards flying open while they were hanging out the door trying to flag her husband down. It did make for a funny story but she swears she will never ride back there again!
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                  Sat, March 3, 2007 - 3:21 PM
                  Walkie-talkies could come in handy!


                  I've known a few people who lived in their vehicles with moderate success. I have a friend who lived in his VW van for about 1-1/2 yrs and was able to cross the country a few times. He loved it for the most part, stopping at camp grounds along the way. He occasionally had trouble with the cops in town here (his homebase) but we live in an uptight county and the neighbors had issues. He ended up rented a place and getting a job but he's about to do it again. He just bought a 12-seat van that he's about to convert to live in since the owners of the house he rented are putting it up for sale.

                  My boyfriend also lived 2 years in his cabover camper on a truck. He had a place to park it permanently in the parking lot of his job so it was never an issue and he could take it out occasionally but he loved the flexibility of his little home on wheels. It had all the comforts of home, including wireless internet that he set up with a router from his work. He eventually got rid of it after moving in with me but we did buy and recently refurbish a vintage cabover which sits on a 4WD truck that we can take anywhere.
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                  Sun, March 4, 2007 - 7:17 AM
                  Oh really? I never thought much of 5th wheels but now maybe I will have to take a new look. Although I like the idea of something a little smaller but not too small. Problem is I like to self contained rv's (the smaller ones) but would like to be able to detach and drive something parkable to get supplies ot building materials if I find a place where I want to stay a while.
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          Sat, March 3, 2007 - 6:51 PM
          “I know I'm a person who does need the space. I fret that the 5th wheel I want may not be enough space. “

          : ) should be fun to get your feedback after a few months… It is not that I disagree, but rather that it seems people tend to perceive their “box” as being just for sleeping, food, and cleaning (self, etc.) over time, and the *whole world* as your home.

          ”Did you drive the thing with passengers in the trailer? How did they liek that? Iv'e heard people hate riding/sleeping in the trailer when it's on the road.”

          Right, as Timbshoo said, it is a bit more than bumpy. I had 4 people in the back all the up to BM. A trailer is basically a bar and fulcrum, even a small rise or drop is felt very strongly over this length, being closer to the wheels helps, which is where the bathroom usually is. Defects and variations in the road make for a pretty much constant bumpy ride. It is not an effective way to travel.

          “I believe that it is illegal to drive with people in the trailer.”

          It is indeed *legal* in CA (with a 5th wheel). You do require functional communication (such as walkie talkies, as suggested by Pee Pee).

          From www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648pt12.htm

          “People are allowed in a properly equipped fifth-wheel trailer coach (§21712 [f] VC).”

          That simple.

          P.S Pee Pee, my wife is also Hapa-Nihonjin/Polska. Seems to be a formula for stunning beauty…

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            Mon, March 5, 2007 - 5:29 PM
            >>>It is indeed *legal* in CA (with a 5th wheel).

            --->Thanks for posting that reference (you beat me to it). I can't stand it when people claim to know the law and put out false information. Having worked as a police officer here in CA, I've seen alot of that.

            Thanks for the into on the bumpy ride. I'm still thinking about buying that trailer.

            Homes are so expensive here I just can't see buying anything BUT a 5th wheel. I'm just not sure where I'd park it yet.

            I'd love to find a park with a pool that wouldn't cost to much. I wish there was a park in Fresno like DPNR www.dpnr.com/. It's wonderful there.
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              Wed, March 7, 2007 - 12:33 PM
              Hi everyone from NZ...we are a nation of housetruckers....and buses too...I have owned two buses and having never driven one took them all the way from the north island here down to the south on the ferry too which was pretty freaky for someone not used to driving something like that...I lived in a utopic place called Golden Bay Takaka for 10 years,its situated in the northwest of the top of the south island and its a very alternative place with likeminded greenies also living in trucks etc...

              I love the outdoor lifestyle that living in a truck or bus bring...you get so close to nature and are part of her rather than behind 4 square walls...nice...and the freedom to travel this gorgeous land is right there...blessings and happy adventures....
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                Wed, March 7, 2007 - 4:57 PM
                NZ is very nice, did the drive up to Russell and Kerikeri once. Amazing coast, good people...lots of sheep.

                Very much worth it.
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                  Mon, March 12, 2007 - 8:41 PM
                  very interesting and inspiring thread.
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                    Mon, April 23, 2007 - 4:58 AM
                    I spent ages looking at the pics from the links herein :)
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                      Fri, April 27, 2007 - 12:49 PM
                      Here is a great article about the "green" value of living in your vehicle!
                      sustain.ca/urban_rv/rv/...20machine.htm
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                        Mon, May 14, 2007 - 6:30 AM
                        New to this tribe. A few truck/van stories. I bought my 1965 1 ton 16' "Railway Express" Van in 1973. Based on a Chevy 1 ton frame with a UPS style body. Put a raised false floor in to give me underfloor storage for tools, materials etc.. and Chestnut cabinets and bunk bed. Traveled the country in the 70's and 80's (and raised 3 kids) doing homeowner construction after disasters (floods tornados etc..) Also played music and traded goods cheap in one place higher in another. (Like Stone Ground flour or honey to food-co-ops in cities). Still trade stuff except now on Ebay. Gradually bought small tracts of land to base my Van from in a number of states and planted trees. Now have a multistate tree growing business, still do construction when I feel like it, and still have that old hippy Van but now also have a 27 RV trailer, an E-350 box truck and a 16' slidein camper at my various locations. I use 20' steel shipping containers as mobile offices and shops so like a Nomad of the desert I can move locations very quickly, minimize real estate taxes on buildings (farm land = cheap taxes) and live in a variety of places all of which I consider "home". I visit cities to work or trade but always live in rural areas where folks don't bother how you live. I tried an Urban base in a City which was good for business but too many hassles. I mostly live off-grid and off the radar, but do have power pole hookups like a campground does when I need gobs of power to run shop tools, welders, etc...I own one conventional Doublewide which I use as a office but prefer to live Moble so am rarely at the office for long. With computers and Cellphones why bother being tied down. So find an old van, a cheap RV and hit the road. be honest, do top notch work and you'll never lack for a place to park and work to do. The biggest negative I've found is that most women won't stay for long as they want to "nest" and be "normal" and a mobile lifestyle doesn't fit their image except as a temporary thing.
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                          Mon, May 14, 2007 - 11:43 AM
                          Welcome Organic-tree-farm!! What a great story you have!!! Sounds like you've run the gamut of nomadic lifestyles.

                          I have to agree that, as much as I would love to travel the country as you have, I would want a base to call home a few times a year...
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                            Mon, May 14, 2007 - 7:32 PM
                            I can agree about a base. Just want more than one. :)) Like a chicken with more than one egg. One of my current dreams (project under staging) is to setup an overseas Central American base using shipping containers prepared here in US before being shipped overseas. Looking at Costa Rica, or Belize. I don't like the continued political tone of our Gov. and think a neutral Country base might be a good idea not discounting the "paradise" value of a tropical 3rd. world base. Lot's of folks need jobs in most 3rd. countries and I'll just find new opportunities their.
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                              Tue, May 15, 2007 - 10:46 AM
                              You should connect with Roy, who is part of this tribe. He lives in Costa Rica and has been talking about buying up some land there.
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                                Fri, September 7, 2007 - 8:09 PM
                                Hi all,

                                I am new to this thread and a few months late but in case anyone is still following it I wanted to add my two cents worth if I may. I have been living in my truck in a large city in Canada for a little over two years. Been stopped by the police twice but both times it was no big deal. They checked my ID and left me alone when they realized I was living in my truck. The first police man stopped me to find out if I was dead in my truck - I had parked every night in a Wal-Mart in the same spot and he saw my truck there at the start of his night shifts for quite a while. The second set of police stopped and knocked me awake in a residential neighborhood where a neighbor called me in as suspicious. They checked my ID, apologized for waking me up, and let me go back to sleep when they were satisfied that I was not a criminal. Of course Canadian police generally treat you with more respect that U.S. police do in my experience (I lived in Florida for ten years before coming to Canada).

                                Anyway I've never had any problems living in my truck other than figuring out how to do it and other practical matters. The police in the city I am in told me there was no problem living in my vehicle as long as I was not parked in the same spot for more than 72 hours.

                                I have been using the address of my wife from whom I have been seperated as my "home" address with her permission. We are seperated but on good relations as long as we don't live together :).

                                Anyway that is the gist of my story for now. Feel free to ask me questions - I will answer what I can if there is any interest in continuing this thread.

                                Oh I forgot to mention that I make a living window cleaning and driveway sealing. A very decent living during the warmer weather. When it gets real cold I do things like waitering, telemarketing, or whatever i can find for the winters. I carry all my window cleaning equipment inside my truck which has a bunk bed, storage compartments, etc. I take showers and otherwise stay clean by paying $45 a month to use any of 10 city gym facilities in various parts of the city I am in.

                                Carlos
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                          Man am I relieved to read about someone doing this. I have given MUCH thought to this concept, but was afraid my wife would get me therapy if I mentioned it ;-) My thoughts centered on 2 40' containers (one for housing, one for shop/storage) , power pole, and cell-phone attached to computer (my software development background showing) so I could monitor the site visually and get notified if anything abnormal needed attention. Also so I could unlock remotely so fellow wanderers could use.

                          I don't want to carry this post too far afield or to bury a new subject too deep within this thread, but I would love to participate in a thread about remote outposts if you are inclined to start one. I hesitate to do so myself only because I haven't actually DONE it, but do have a few thoughts on it.
  • Re: Truck living!

    Sun, September 16, 2007 - 11:22 AM
    I think its great youre making this work.

    I have some thoughts to add, although from different circumstances...
    A few years ago things were quite bad in my life, and for some time I was effectively homeless, and sleeping in my truck (pickup truck with topper).
    That didn't bother me. I'm a minimalist.
    However, it was NIGHTMARE finding a place to park and sleep at night.
    I'm female, btw, so the fear/harassment factor was much greater.
    People are not very open-minded about car-living.
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      Mon, September 17, 2007 - 10:27 AM
      Sunshine,
      Been there done that.
      I hope things are beautiful for you now!
      Blessed be!
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        Tue, September 18, 2007 - 10:31 PM
        Thank you!

        Things are not as I wish them to be (yet), but things are defintely better, and I'm more positive.

        Thanks again.

        And I love Frida Kahlo's art
        I think often of her last painting, cut watermelons.
    • Re: Truck living!

      Mon, September 24, 2007 - 8:15 AM
      I'm rebuilding a small diesel truck to make it more of a home. It runs on biodiesel, and gets about 35 MPG. I'm selling my old Victorian house, and will caretake sustainable homesteads for my many friends and friends of friends across the wide world.
      I do agree with you, Sunshine, there are many factors to consider for a woman to camp or truck-live solo. I travel very strategically from "safe place" to "safe place"....too bad the world's that way, but it's been that way for a long time for women and I'm grudgingly accepting it. I've always been very safe, using a combo of intuition and common sense. Happy travels to All!
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        Sat, April 26, 2008 - 7:56 AM
        can I ask what kind of diesel engine and trans you have that gets 35 mpg ? Thanks
        and how do you get the oil and convert it? thanks
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          Sat, April 26, 2008 - 12:53 PM
          I'd guess that she probably buys the Biod from someone who sells it, simply because making biod can be messy, requires some equipment and very caustic chemicals. Especially to make it in any sort of quantity.
  • Re: Truck living!

    Sat, December 1, 2007 - 9:28 AM
    I enjoy hearing and reading stories like yours. Good for you! I'm also on the verge of building what will be a small dwelling - on a flatbed trailer. The biggest hold up for me is finding some way to build-in a 50-75 gal. water storage tank - pump - water heater system so I could actually take a quick HOT shower or wash dishes with warm water.
    Perhaps that is too much to ask. I guess traditional RVs always park in places where there is a water hook up - but then, I've never been in an RV so what do I know.
    Any ideas?
    Regardless, I love your attitude.
    H
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      Sat, December 1, 2007 - 7:16 PM
      ya, I'm thinking your BEST bet might be to hit the RV store. Here in Albuquerque, we even have a RV U-pull-it!! I plan to salvage parts I need from there and anything that might not be available there I will likely find at a local plumbing supply stores at a discount in comparison to the RV specialty stores. A friend of mine got a nice catalytic heater for a bathroom for about a hundred bucks. I've priced them at specialty stores for 3-400.

      I have a 171/2', 1977 Toyota Muskeet. Originally, it had a shower/commode stall and hot water , but I currently don't have "running water" but I easily shower at friend's houses or even as a way to meet new people. But that's a might adventurous for some folk, lol. Plus I have a job that outs me up at a hotel pretty often.

      An on-demand water heater is efficient and small, but it'll cost ya. You could try using solar water heating, and there are about a thousand ways to do that. And a thousand more complications associated as well, as everything shifts every time you move.

      J
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        Wed, January 16, 2008 - 8:09 AM
        "but I currently don't have "running water" but I easily shower at friend's houses or even as a way to meet new people."

        Haha YES! It's a great way to meet people! It is so strangely intimate and really breaks down peoples boundaries (in my own experience in a good way) Of course there is a bit more danger for women, but I think both sexes have an equal capacity to trust their instincts. I think the true key to success and happiness to living in a very small or mobile space is not how to fit 50 gallons of water, (one gallon weighs 8.3 pounds!) a kitchen sink, dishwasher, or big screen TV into your space, but if you really need them, how to share with others (while of course offering what you have to share.) That being said, the million dollar buses do have hot tubs and washing machines "all the conveniences of home" You can hole up in there and never interact with anyone outside! But what is life without challenges, creativity, and showering with strangers??!! :)
    • Re: Truck living!

      Sat, April 26, 2008 - 8:00 PM
      here's an idea,you can buy stainless steel tanks by looking in the phone book for starters and at home depot or other home center supply places you can get a selection of water heaters-think 25 to 50 gallon, then all you need is a pump easly found at boiler supply places just a small one about the size of your hand is all you need just to circulate back and forth from tank to heater to keep it hot,and some air presher at the top of the tank to push the water out a bottom line,small 12 volt air compressors are easy to get.
      if you realy want to get tricky you can create a heat exchanger that would heat your camper water from the water heated while the camper motor is running using the engine water to heat the camper water/the engine water would never come in contact with the camper water,get it?
      Camper supply places may also be able to give you some info,good luck.
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      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 9:03 PM
      on-demand tankless water heaters are available for $150-up. they are smaller than a breadbox. hook one up to a 5 gallon propane tank and a garden hose, instant shower. store components in truck. hang heater on a bracket on outside of truck when in use. rig a shower curtain or wear a bathing suit if neccessary. water is heavy (8 pounds per gallon), try not to carry any more than you absolutely need to.
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        Mon, May 5, 2008 - 11:11 AM
        I saw a really nice "permanent" installation of Zodi water heater in a teardrop trailer. All they did was mount the heater in a metal box with a standard water heater chimney and then put an NOX detector in the cabin, just in case. 3 years now he has been running it with no problems.

        B-D
  • Re: Truck living!

    Sun, January 13, 2008 - 10:38 PM
    I was interested to see this thread, as i live in new zealand where there are heaos of housetruckers, as we call them here (see my profile to a link with photos). for six years i lived in a schoolbus which i converted first for living in myself (with my dogs and cats), then progressively grew bigger as my partner moved in, then first child was born. we finally moved out when she was just over one year old, not because of lack of space but because we could no longer be fucked with getting hassled to move on by the authorities here. it seems that as real estate prices rose the number of spots you could park a truck or bus declined accordingly! also, i really wanted a garden...
    we lived without much electricity, we had a solar panel that ran the stereo and a couple of fluresent lights. i handwashed diapers and clothes, and we boiled water on the stove if we needed it. we had a gas stove an when my partner moved in we got a gas fridge cos a cold beer is important to him :)
    one of the best things about this lifestyle was yjat great, supportive and friendly network of people that i constantly came into contact with - people i miss now that i am not on the road anymore.
    i think it is a great opportunity you have over in north america to really travel, as new zealand is quite small.
    go for it!!!
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    Tue, January 15, 2008 - 5:25 PM
    I have lived in a school bus here in alaska, lots of people have done that, I lived in my blue bus from May til November, i did not winter it but I have met some who did, I did live thru 10 degrees and I was not ready with a good enuff heat source. I also had six wolf hybreds living with me . one used my old suburu as a dog house for awhile. Anyway I know alaskka gets a bad rap for school bus living since that movie cameout about the guy who lived near Denali in a school bus and died! Done by Sean Penn. I just want to say I lived in a stone cabin built in 1661 in Maryland, it was an old trading post for Gunpowder and supplies, then it became a slaves quarters in the 1790 to 1800's.It was called Rockford on the Gunpowder. In new mexico I saw a house built out of nothing but Volks Wagon cars and buses.
    • Re: Truck living!

      Wed, January 16, 2008 - 6:32 PM
      what a great thread.. !
      I'm new to this but picked up an older motor home this summer and am wintering in North Nevada..
      (next summer hope to pick a warmer spot :-/ )
      So far it's going well though :-)

      Look forward to the call of the road this spring.
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        Wed, May 7, 2008 - 11:33 AM
        i'm surprised to only read one person talk about the weather! i lived in a minivan for close to 3 years and traveled to stay away from winter, but in the summer sometimes it would catch so much heat during the day (like when visiting someone in a city without many trees, in the southwest usa) that it was an oven at night and i'd lay there sweating until 2 or 3 in the morning, only to catch a few hours sleep until the sun came up and started baking the van again. it was awful! i can only imagine that a box truck would be even hotter with no windows.

        the other major challenge was when major auto repair needed to happen, like my transmission blew and cost me $2000. if i do this again i'll check out my next purchase MUCH more thoroughly than in the past.

        the minivan was great - just enough space for one person. i built a bed in the back and stored clothes and such underneath, a massage table folded up next to it, and had a little bureau behind the driver's seat. it was awesome. i put some window screen in over the sliding side windows so i could get a breeze at night but it wouldn't have been safe had anyone chosen to reach in and unlock the front door or stab me in my sleep. but i was always okay and never slept anywhere i didn't feel safe.

        like others in the thread, i did a lot of painting and/or construction, paid cash with no taxes to report, plus some massage here and there at a festival. my three or four years on the road were incredible.
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          Wed, April 29, 2009 - 9:16 AM
          I moved out of my house when I lost my job in October 2008. I sold my 01 Silverado and bought a 1983 Suncrest 33' Motorhome. Changed all the carpet, bed, and tile and moved in. I live in Arizona. currently in an RV park in Mesa. It's getting hot. I'm ready to spend at least half the summer in California cruising in the RV. I figure I'll take the 10 to LA then go down to SD. I'm currently looking on the Internet for spots to park, close to the beach. It's a big ass motorhome and I know how tight Cali parking can be. The RV living was actually my Dad's idea. Why pay rent...etc. I'm all for it, I have gotten used to it. I stay a few times a week at a friends apartment, but I have everything I need here. I do have a bunch of stuff in storage though, so that's an additional expense per month. If anybody who reads this knows of some parking spots, state or city laws on RV day/overnight parking please share.
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            Wed, April 29, 2009 - 10:40 AM
            I knew ther was a reason I read thruogh EVERY post on this thread! I should tell you about santa Barbara's safe and legal parking program, they have set aside two parking lots right on the beach by the pier for overnight parking, and theres a lady who operates it, you get a paper to put in your window, cops wont hassle you, you have to move by I think it was 7 am, but then theres free parking all day allong the beach. I stayed in my motorhome there for a couple of months, showers at salvation army, and there was plenty of food from the food banks, too. Also There is the sunday art walk for artisans to sell there wares.... my rv was34 ft, so a big eee, as well, never had a problem. good luck. weather is fricking AWESOME in SB
  • Re: Truck living!

    Tue, May 12, 2009 - 12:03 PM
    In every state where I've lived you need a physical address to get a driver's license, a bank account, etc.

    How do you manage to live out of a vehicle with such impediments?

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      Fri, June 12, 2009 - 11:47 PM
      This is pretty simple - you either had an address when you set these up and don't need to renew a bank acct. for instance, or you use a friend's address - these places don't require you to show proof of residency every time you do business. You use cards instead of checks (what checks do you need with no utilities or rent?) and you keep your car registered in whatever state you began in - they send you renewals but you can call and have them send it to general delivery anywhere you are and just tell them you're traveling. Not sure what the "etc." is - some insurance companies make you prove an address, but not all of them.
      • B
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        Sat, June 13, 2009 - 5:55 AM
        If a large portion of the population of this country would close their bank account we could solve some of the bank problems we have by driving them out of business.
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      Sat, June 13, 2009 - 5:27 PM
      This is one of the benefits of growing up in a small town! I have the same address on my drivers license that I had since I got it at age 16. The address on my license actually no longer exists, since back in 1996 the local government came in a issued new fire numbers to every building in the county, making my street address no longer valid (it's only existence is on my license!!!). But since my mail arrives in a post office box, I still get the renewals, because the one person who works in the post office knows everyone in town. I have my mail sent to a relatives PO box, and if I get anything important (like jury duty) they notify me. I also vote by absentee ballot by calling the town clerk and have him send it out to me, at a friends house, or general delivery. Sometimes, it really does take a village!

      I barter for my cell phone, I'm on a family plan, so I never see the bill, but once a year I "pay" it off by doing construction work. I don't have a bank account (I barely have any money!) as B points out, we'd all be better off without them.

      I'm surprised this thread is still going! I've lived in my truck 5 1/2 years now!!

      It's really not any problem at all, much easier than people are afraid it might be. We can all think of plenty of excuses to not do something we don't want to do, but if it's something we want, there are always ways to work it out. It's a different reality than living in a fixed place, as Passion points out, no utilities, no rent, there are a lot of requirements associated with living in a house that simply don't apply.




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        Sun, June 14, 2009 - 7:45 PM
        My wife and I are sort of considering this. We have seriously discussed it. She used to work for WalMart in Oklahoma. One of the things she pointed out is that anyone can "camp out" in any WalMart's parking lot over night for free. That way, you are even covered by security.

        MP & BB
        John
        ))0((
        • Re: Truck living!

          Mon, June 15, 2009 - 10:18 PM
          That's true about Walmart parking lots. I used to travel in a motor home during the summers for a few years. We'd sometimes pay to stay at a nice campground like a National Park or something, but just finding a place to park and sleep for the night before moving on? Walmarts were great!

          Sam Walmart, apparently, liked recreational vehicles and made it a policy to allow people to stay in their lots. And you know, when you are staying at a Walmart, it is quite likely you'll go in and shop for something while there at some point, so it's a win win situation.
          • Re: Truck living!

            Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:35 AM
            Check out these directories before parking over night in a Walmart rvbookstore.com/shop/search.aspx or ask the individual store manager. There are quite a few Walmarts that do not allow overnight parking and will have you towed. The one in Auburn, WA won't allow it at all, and I know of several others we have been to that don't allow it either. They have signs posted everywhere but others aren't posted. I have had friends ticketed or towed from Walmart parking lots before. Other locations is's ok though. You just have to check each individual Walmart.
            • Re: Truck living!

              Fri, June 19, 2009 - 5:22 PM
              I remember one Walmart that didn't allow overnight parking. Its in Kalispell, Montana. There were signs saying so and when we asked we were told it was a city policy that applied to all parking lots. That may be the case in some other cities, too.
  • Re: Truck living!

    Sun, August 2, 2009 - 1:10 AM
    The thread is very positive and encouraging. I'm looking for a new (or returning to a new) way of living. Currently I live in Van Nuys, CA and due to personal tragedies ; I feel it is time to move away from the Los Angeles area. I lived in a Van once and I thought I was some kind of weirdo for actually enjoying it. I never had problems with the police.In fact, one was concerned about me and would drive by the place I parked at least once a week to check on me. :) I wish I would have kept with it. But I never spoke to anyone else who seemed to be like me. Someone with regular work / a job and choose the way of living. Because of that I felt I had something to be ashamed of.... but over the last several months I see how I was happier with less materlistic things and in living on the road, traveling whenever I wanted to because I could. As for internet. I had a laptop and used it at libraries, cafes, down free wifi hot spots and rest stops with free wifi -- internet connection was rarely a problem. The only real problem I encountered was narrow minded people and the occassional dumb kid who would bang on my van to wake me up just to be a jerk. I miss it and am now looking for either communal living or buying a van or small RV again and returning to what made me happy.
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    Mon, October 5, 2009 - 5:35 PM
    Hi

    I'm rob

    I was searching for an intentional community when I came across this thread.

    I have lived in many different forms of vehicles for more than 30 years.
    Starting with a VW van that I built, to the 36' motor home that I built back in 79 which was 4' longer than the industry standard of the day, which was 32'.

    I always wanted a bigger motor home and still have a plan in my head to build a 43' with a 30' trailer for the toys with a hot tub in the roof.
    I even have drawn up an amphibious version.

    What I have found is the the bigger it is the more noticed that you will be which converts to the more hassled you will be although raising a family in it would be better.

    I have done this around the world even crossing the Sahara living as a group on a truck.

    It is a balance, I still want to build my big monster to prove that I still have it in me I guess.

    You really don't need all the room or the hassle and expense.

    What you need is enough room to be comfortable and function easily.

    A bread van or something even longer like a library van is ideal.

    A double bed over the driving area is best as the driving area is wasted space unless you are driving.

    Make it look like it is a commercial vehicle that is still in use every day.

    You will get a lot less hassles this way.

    Put in a lot of skylights and no windows.

    If they can't see you then they will leave you alone faster.

    Never answer the door.

    If they can't talk to you they can't tell you to move.

    Doing it for so long I have learned the hard way, they are not going to be friendly to you why be friendly back.

    My last ticket was in Manitoba.

    I was told to move in 4 hours or get a ticket.
    they gave me a littering ticket.
    I still owe them $66 for the extortion bill.

    The hard part is to find a mate that shares your desires to live this way.

    Finding a job is easier if you belong to a trade union.
    You can go to any city and transfer your union card and get a good paying job and lots of time a second job as a night watchman with a place to park with free hookups.

    Walmarts are great, some even have free hookups for you although I know Arizona has a law against parking over night there as they want your money to help pay for their interests and that is way some place have all those no over night parking signs.
    Around Disneyland and Knott's Berry farm is also like this.

    However in off season I have parked right on Venice Beach by paying to park in the public beach lot and not leaving.
    They don't say anything as there is not many people there.
    Also I have parked at the western end of LAX the bike path is right there and it is free.
    You get used to the noise pretty fast and there is lots of people doing it.

    I guess I had a very unusual life over the years but also it wasn't boring.
    The kids loved it and are much more worldly and adventurous for girls because of it.

    If you have any questions about repairs or designs or anything else let me know.

    I am planning my next adventure and maybe let astray.

    Thanks rob

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