wanna live in a tree house?

topic posted Fri, March 16, 2007 - 11:00 AM by  offlineKatheryn
I do.

why cut down the trees when yu can live sustainably in them! Although laot of tree houses seem to be made out of wood. This is fantastic on one way because after you are gone it would eventually decompose back into the forest! But I think a house out of recycles meterials would be ideal because then it could be used for year and years an years.
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Katheryn
Canada
  • Re: wanna live in a tree house?

    Fri, March 16, 2007 - 1:35 PM
    Virtually all tree houses are made out of materials that are not growing. The tree is. If the tree overgrows the structure, the structure will kill the tree even if it is wood itself. Without proper maintenance to trim back the structure from the tree, how is that sustainable? How is it sustainable at all?

    Living in tree houses IS fun though....
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    Fri, March 16, 2007 - 2:25 PM
    I can envision a tree house that uses cables strung from limbs with woven flooring , a system that sways with the tree and allows for the growth of the tree. It would best work in temperate climates but is not technically restricted to them ....where the cable is wrapped around the limbs would of course require inspection. You could use steel cables or even woven natural fiber ones though those would require closer inspection on a more consistant basis...this model doesn't lend itself to restrictive binding construction though all aspects would have to incorporate sway give from wind...it wouldn't be for everyone...the elderly would have the hardest time I would think....
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      Sat, March 17, 2007 - 2:55 PM
      and what forsake my beloved dsl, my electronics, my tribe?
      where would i plug in my blow dryer?
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        Sat, March 17, 2007 - 3:49 PM
        yeah it's not for people who have to have those attachments : )
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          Sat, March 17, 2007 - 8:52 PM
          I saw a aboriginal film called 10 Canoes
          The aboriginals debarked certain trees and placed the wide sheaths of bark high up in trees on criss crossing straight tree poles...it looked quite cosey up there and it was environmentally considerate...they also used the bark for making their canoes...amazing people wo really know how to live off the land and in tune with gaia...
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            Sun, March 18, 2007 - 9:49 AM
            Thus killing the tree. Sorry but very out of tune with Gaia.
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              Sun, March 18, 2007 - 10:15 AM
              I don't understand? Are you talking about the cables or the removal of the bark mentioned in the other post? or the whole idea of living in a treehouse?
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                Sun, March 18, 2007 - 3:57 PM
                Some 99.9% of dicot trees are killed when their bark is removed. A few can have certain layers removed and survive but these layers are rarely very strong. So unless you go into great detail as to type of tree, level of bark removal, etc. you are going to kill trees.
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              Tue, March 20, 2007 - 6:51 PM
              striping the bark does not kill the tree. because the tree she is speaking off is a red cedar on the west coast, the bark grows back and you can strip one tree many times. Its one of the most sustainable practices in human history. they call the cedar the dree of life because you can make boats, clothes, rope.....houses..... without killing the tree. It very with gaia because they even ask the tree first.
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            Sun, March 18, 2007 - 1:03 PM
            hey gliSTenz thats sound like a cool film. It sounds like it like how they get cork. If they remove less than 50% of the bark per 'harvest' the tree is not killed and can be harvested again in about 9 years. They have been harvesting cork in this manner in Portugal for 3000 years.

            I imagine a canoe made out of bark would be very buoyant!

            I think maybe there's a lot worse things going on currently in this world that is not in tune with gaia than some aboriginals debarking certain trees!
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        Sat, April 14, 2007 - 9:53 PM
        You wouldn't have to forsake anything to live in a treehouse. I was on the road six months and plugged my laptop into my celphone for full service - and generators aren't out of reach either (hmmm - sounds a little punny). Yes - not DSL but still. You can do still connect if you want in any weird place you choose to live.
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    Fri, May 23, 2008 - 9:50 AM
    Thoughts on this thread: There is already some technology out there that adjusts as the tree grows. I don't know anything about it, I just heard some enthusiastic arborists talking about it once. A tree house almost as a rule, is going to have a limited lifetime because of the tree. Trees get sick, blow over etc.. I can't personally imagine a house in a tree that would help prevent any of these problems. Are there any real advantages to living in a tree house? I think it's just neato basically.

    10,000 canoes was Ok, but don't watch the stone tool making scenes as they are all wrong. Some of the props and weapons were pretty cheesy too. So what if they were stripping the bark off trees? It's all about the context in which they were doing so isn't it? Where I live I've got trees coming out my ass (now that's sustainable!). I can't wait till I have the time and energy to bust out my chainsaw and start thinning and trimming. Most of my "extra" trees are small diameter firs and hardwoods, there are millions of acres of this stuff.. a legacy to decades of logging. So, I am interested in building with poles. If I lived where there were Eucalyptus growing I'd be all over stripping their bark and killing them because they are extremely invasive and don't allow anything else to grow beneath them. Let's use them for something! These are local solutions to local problems. Yes there are too many people for everyone to strip bark from trees to make tree houses, but that can be irrelevant to a local situation.

    People consume period. You have some choice about what you consume and it behooves us all to take into account many factors when making these decisions. If when making decisions of this nature we take an intensively resource based view of our situations through the lense of a value system based on long term sustainablity and happy people, we are more likely to make good ones. That mindset is going to tighten the lasso of resource consumption in as locally as possible.

    I'm continually shocked and disappointed that people have to latch onto what seem like simple solutions, or bash others without looking at the big picture. Ok, so bamboo can be sustainably harvested in asia where it is more native. That doesn't mean we should ship 90,000,000 pounds a year to America for our pimpy bamboo floors and fences in our "green" remodels. We need more local solutions and, as a society, are really exhibiting a failure of creativity in this regard.

    And it always comes down to the same problem. There are way too many people to maintain a high living standard for everyone. No reallocation of resources, newly discovered super plant, alien intervention, new building technique, free energy technology or whatever is going to fix that problem. Don't build a nursery in that tree house and it'll be that much smaller. Ok, so that was roughly on topic:)
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      Fri, May 30, 2008 - 8:56 AM
      20 years ago i lived in a tree house (my moms boyfriends) built entirely of recycled and found materials. the house was built around a ironwood tree and the second story (which was a small enclosed bedroom) was actually in the canopy of the tree. this was in hawaii so there were no concerns about inclement weather ,except the odd hurricane, only biting bugs. there was no electricity (until we got some large (tractor) batteries to get some lights but it was a comfortable rustic home. (as a child it was so embarrassing so "hippy" ) I go to visit the tree which is still alive strong and tall protecting the mountain from erosion but the house is gone....rotted away. so the tree was sustainable but not the house. peace
  • Re: wanna live in a tree house?

    Fri, May 30, 2008 - 11:52 AM
    "Keep your dreams alive. Understand to achieve anything requires faith and belief in yourself, vision, hard work, determination, and dedication. Remember all things are possible for those who believe." - Gail Devers

    www.archinode.com/bienal.html

    From the website
    Principles:

    This home concept is intended to replace the outdated design solutions at Habitat for Humanity International. Our goal was to propose a method to grow homes from native trees. This enables these new local dwellings to be a part of an absolutely green community.

    1. Composed with 100% living nutrients.
    2. Harmonize & embrace growth.
    3. Make effective contributions to the ecosystem.
    4. Accountable removal of human impacts.
    5. Involve arboreal farming & production.
    6. Subsume technology within terrestrial environs.
    7. Circulate water & metabolic flows symbiotically.
    8. Consider the life cycle, from use to disposal.
    9. Achieve a fitness with our earthen web of life.


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